Runzelstirn & Gurgelstøck “THIS HAD TO COME. HERE WE GO. GOSSIP.”

Amidst the monotony of life and lack of experiential living, there are few individuals who take simple concepts like "the senses" to new heights, or at least to places where you might not otherwise traverse. One such example is Rudolf Eb.er. Protagonist of the legendary Schimpfluch Gruppe/Commune and master of the absurd, he has created considerable challenging and sometimes downright confusing works over the decades.

Eb.er's early sonic compositions were comprised of uncomfortable periods of silence, exemplifying short sharp grunts, growls, or barks, making the listener focus on the act of listening itself. This minimalist approach has evolved to levels of complex and disturbing proportions, utilizing unnerving cries of anguish juxtaposed with maniacal laughter as sound sources that build into an aural insanity. Meanwhile, the performances of Rudolf's Runzelstirn & Gurgelstøck are certainly a thing of mythos. From repeated relentless head-banging into bowls of spaghetti while contact mic'd, to shotgun blasts into an unsuspecting audience, to the vexing vomit chorus, to the amplification of dead fish, it comes as no surprise that Eb.er (and cohorts Joke Lanz and Dave Phillips) are constantly compared to the Viennese Aktionist scene as well as the Fluxus and Absurdist movements. It should probably also be noted that Rudolf is an accomplished painter in addition to his aforementioned artistic attributes.

For an entity enshrouded in such sardonic rumors and mystery, it seems only natural to shed a little light, so without further adieu...

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I understand that raw horse is your favorite food. What other forms of nourishment do you enjoy?

FIRST: CONGRATULATIONS! YOU START-UP THE INTERVIEW WITH FOOD INSTEAD SOUND.
THIS IS ABSOLUT TO ADMIRE.

THE FIRST DAY I PUT STEP ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL I GOT MYSELF A KANGUROO.

ASTOUNISHING WAS THAT MY ULTRA-VEGAN COMPANION, MR. DAVE PHILLIPS HIMSELF, DID ASSIST MY COOKING. TASTED JUST WONDERFUL! THE KANGUROO, NOT DAVE.

IF NOT GOING THAT EXOTIC AS EATING LOCUSTS - THAT HAVE NOT MUCH OF TASTE, BUT GIVING POWER, REALLY - IT'S A GOOD SPICED LAMB.

READ NIETZSCHE; HIS BOOKS READ LIKE COOKING-BOOKS: "MY STOMACHE MUST BE A BIRDS STOMACHE? - FEEDING ON LAMBS.". HE DID KNOW GOOD SPICE TOO.

I RECOMMEND DUCKS-BLOOD-PUDDING. NOT TO SPICE-UP THIS INTERVIEW, JUST TELLING THE TRUTH: IT'S THE BEST!

BLAME MY TAIWANESE FRIENDS - THEY TRIED TO SCARE ME WITH FOOD THEY WON'T EAT THEMSELFES.
ONE MORE THING ABOUT FOOD: WHEN ON TOUR, PEOPLE ALWAYS MAKE ME SICK ASKING IF I AM VEGAN AS MY FELLOW COMPANIONS. I AM CONVINCED CARNIVOUR! GOT IT? AND I JUST RECORD MY "ANTIVEGAN MANIFEST" THESE DAYS: TO BE RELEASED ON A SPOKEN-WORD TAPE WITH AND FROM JOKE LANZ, "GESPROCHENES UND ERBROCHENES VON JOKE LANZ UND RUDOLF EB.ER". OUT NEXT YEAR POSSIBLY.

THIS BECAUSE THE DAILY VEGAN PROPAGANDA. IT'S TIME FOR CARNIVOURES TO TALK BACK. I AM AGAINST ANIMAL FACTORIES. ABSOLUTELY! JUST AS THE VEGANS. BUT DID THEY EVER WORKED ON A FIELD? I DID.
FURTHER MORE: I WOULD TRY ON HUMAN MEAT. NOT SEXUAL ORGANS, TITS ARE NOT TASTY, I WAS TOLD. BUT LIVER AND BRAIN MAY BE GOOD AFTER A SHORT BURN.

What sounds most excite you?

IT'S NOT ON A SINGULAR SOUND, BUT THE COMBINATION OF SOUNDS. FOR EXAMPLE YOU HEAR THE BIRDS RUSHING UP - THE CARCRASH - AND THE SILENCE AFTER. THAT MAKES MY DAY. THE TIMING AND OVERLAPPING OF FREQUENCIES IS TO RECOGNIZE.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD RECOGNIZE THE CARCRASH ONLY. SCHIMPFLUCH STANDS FOR TRAINING SENSES, GETTING A WIDER VIEW THEN JUST THE CRASH ALONE.

I THINK THE MOST EXCITING SOUND I EVER HEARD WAS WHILE I WAS GOAT-SHEPHERD ON A TAIWANESE MOUNTAIN, LIVING IN ITS BAMBOO FOREST. FIRE BROKE OUT ON THE MOUNTAINS TOP AND THE WIND BLEW IT TOWARDS MY HOUSE. THE SKY GOT BLACK AS IF IT WOULD BE NIGHT! MILLIONS OF ANIMALS RUSHED OVER MY HOUSE, BAMBOO TWISTS...

NO LSD CAN GIVE YOU THAT TRIP.

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"ART IS FOR OPEN-UP SENSES, NOT FOR IT'S STERILIZATION."
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Is there any message that you intend to convey to an audience through your work, or is It more personal aesthetics which are open for interpretation?

PEOPLE INTERPRETATE ANYWAY. THE POINT IS EXACTLY HERE: IT CAN'T BE INTERPRETATED. THERE IS NO MESSAGE IN WORDS, OTHERWISE I RATHER WOULD WRITE A BOOK. I SHARPEN SENSES. THATS ALL.
SEE, MY VEGAN FRIEND DAVE PHILLIPS PUTS TONS OF MESSAGES INTO HIS WORK, SHOWING HIS ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ANIMAL-CRUELTY ON SCREENED VIDEO, AND THEN HIS CHINESE AUDIANCE TELLS HIM: "I LIKE BRUTALO MOVIES TOO!".

I ADMIRE DAVES POWER TO SCREAM OUT LOUD HIS MESSAGE. BUT IT WON'T WORK UNLESS YOU OPEN-UP PEOPLES SENSES FIRST. THAT MIGHT BE MY JOB THEN.

Have you ever been arrested due to your work? (If`yes, please elaborate)

GOT ARREST-WARRANTS ON MY HEAD INDEED. BUT I WAS NOT IN THE MOOD GOING TO JAIL. BESIDES MY SHELTER WAS EIGHER UNKNOWN OR OUT OF REACH.

GOT A NOTE SUBMITTED, I WOULD RISK A 3 YEAR TERM WHEN CATCHED. IT'S A LAUGHING NUMBER. MY WORK IS NOT CRIMINAL. NOTHING ON IT. BUT WHEN I'D LIKE TO GET AN INSIDE VIEW ON THE COMPUTERS OF THOSE ACCUSING ME... THATS EXACTLY THE TIME WHEN THE ACCUSERS DROP THE CASE. WEIRD - HUH?

What are the most irritating things to you?

PARFUMES.

How did you meet Joke Lanz & Dave Phillips?

I KNEW JOKE EARLY, BUT JUST FROM FAR, AS VOCALIST OF AN EXPERIMENTAL HARDCORE BAND.
ANOTHERONE OF THAT BAND - A SCIENTIST, SO TO SAY, WAS A VERY CLOSE FRIEND TO ME, BUILDING RINGMODULATORS AND NERVE-AMPLIFIERS FOR MY USE.

WHEN JOKE DID QUIT THE BAND - BECOMMING A "SUDDEN FATHER" - HE SEARCHED FOR NEW WAYS. THE "SCIENTIST" GAVE HIM MY PHONENUMBER.

THAT UNAWAITED PHONECALL MADE IT ALL: TOGETHER WE ESTABLISHED RADIO "PSYCHIC RALLY". A MONTHLY BROADCAST WE DID FOR 7 YEARS. HE JOINED INN SCHIMPFLUCH. MARC ZEIER AKA G*PARK WAS ALREADY IN SCHIMPFLUCH.

DAVE JOINED INN LATER, FIRST AS MEMBER OF SUDDEN INFANT, THEN SOLO. I LEARNED ABOUT DAVE MOSTLY WHEN ALREADY SITTING NEXT IN OUR PLANE TO TAIWAN FOR OUR DUO-AKTIONS THERE, THAT WE JUST SCETCHED ON TRAVEL.

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"EUROPEANS WONT EAT DOG, CHINESE WONT EAT HORSE. MUSLIM WONT EAT PIG AND HINDU CAN'T EAT COW. I'M VOODOO."
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I understand that you were living in a commune in Japan (and were the youngest member there). How did this living arrangement come to be?

THIS HAD TO COME. HERE WE GO. GOSSIP.

NOT KNOWING WHAT COMMUNE IS MEANT, I SUPPOSE THATS ABOUT ME BEING FARMER IN JAPANS NORTHERN MOUNTAINS?

IN SWITZERLAND I CONSTRUCTED THE MAGNETS THEY USE IN "CERN" TO SPLIT UP ATOMS, AND SECURTY-SYSTEMS FOR NUCLEAR POWERPLANTS.

EVEN I ASSISTED BRAIN SURGERIES.

WHY NOT DOING THE FARMER? AFTER QUIT ALL THAT? FAR MORE HARD, FAR MORE FUN! I CAN TELL WHAT YOU EAT.

Are there any contemporary persons that influence your work?

NO. NOT REALLY. THATS WHY I FOUNDED SCHIMPFLUCH.

DOING SO, I JUST CROSSING WAYS WITH INTERESTING PERSONS.

INFLUENCE YOU GET ON THE STREET. THAT WEIRDO JUST GAVE ME THE SCRIPT FOR THE ACTION THE FOLLOWING DAY.

What are the benefits to living in Japan?

LESS FAT.

Is there a daily routine for Rudolf Eb.er?

NO. EXCEPT FEEDING MY DOGS AND RATS. AND ANSWER STUPID QUESTIONS.

What are some of your earliest memories of disturbing behaviour?

WHAT? ... WELL: I DID NOT OPEN MY EYES FOR TWO WEEKS AFTER MY BIRTH. DOCTORS TRIED BUT THERE WAS NO HELP, MAMA TOLD ME THAT.

IT MAY SOUND WEIRD, BUT I GIVE A LOT ON GOOD BEHAVIOUR!

DISTURBINGS MUST COME CORRECT - OTHERWISE IT'S JUST STUPIDITY.

DISTURBINGS MUST COME WITH THE RIGHT TIMING AND SENSE. THATS THE "BRUTAL-HUMOROID" ELEMENT OF SCHIMPFLUCH.

FORGET BEHAVIOUR ONLY WHEN YOU ACCIDENTALLY STEP IN A CIRCLE OF IDIOTS.

SURE THIS IDIOTS THEN BUILD UP THE GOSSIP AGAINST... AH, MORE COFFEE?

How did you first start recording sound?

THINK A LITTLE BOY WITH KNIFE, SCREWDRIVER, TAPERECORDER. A MEMBRAN FROM A BROKEN PUBLIC-PHONE. LOUDSPEAKERS CUT OUT FROM VEHIKELS.

USING MEMBRANS AS PICK-UP ON WINDOWS, THAT WAS ALREADY CLOSE TO WHAT JUSTICE YELDHAM DOES THESE DAYS.

Does philosophy play much part of your creative output?

ABSOLUTELY YES. EACH SINGLE SECOND, EACH STROKE, MUST MAKE SENSE. OR I DROP IT.

Do you believe your work can better be experienced under the influence of mind- altering substances?

NO. IF MY WORK JUST WORKS UNDER INFLUENCE OF MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES MY WORK WOULD BE A FAILURE. THE WORK ITSELF MUST BE MINDALTERING!

I SEND 'EM ON A TRIP - NO MATTER WHAT SUBSTANCES THEY CONSUME THAT TIME.

Have you ever made a film?

NOT YET.

If no, what sort of film would you make?

WELL, SHE OPENS HER CUNT AND THOUSANDS OF ANTS CRAWL OUT. THAT PART IS WRITTEN FOR ANGELINA JOLIE, SHE NOT SIGNED YET.

What in your opinion was the greatest (or most successful) of your performances?

THE AKTION WITH JOKE AT THE "BROKEN LIVE FESTIVAL TAIPEI" '95, THE AKTION WITH DAVE IN TAINAN '96, THE "CONCERT FOR ASSTROMPET AND STRINGQUINTETT" IN TOKYO '97... THAT WAS "JUST" THE BEGINNING. THE FUEL.

THE ONE WITH SHOTGUN IN SAN FRANCISCO, THE ONE WITH MY ROOSTER AND A CRIPPLED LADY IN OSAKA, HEADBANGING IN PARIS...

IN OPPOSITE TO A BAND OR ARTIST BLEARING THE SAME PROGRAMM AGAIN AND AGAIN, EVERY ONE OF MY AKTIONS IS CONCEPTED FOR THE PLACE, THE TIME, THE PEOPLE THERE. AND OFTEN I DO BEST WHEN PISSED OFF AND TIRED.

CAN'T TELL WHAT WAS BEST. THE LATEST ONE IN OSAKA WAS GOD TOO.

What would you like to do that you have not yet done?

CONDEM THE POPE TO DAILY PUBLIC MASTURBATION.

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"CONDEM THE POPE TO DAILY PUBLIC MASTURBATION. "
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Have you ever suffered personal injury from (or during) one of your performances?

WHAT A QUESTION IS THAT? LOOK AT ME.

What was the greatest moment of suffering that you have experienced in your life?

WHAT A QUESTION IS THAT? SUFFERING IS MY DAILY LIFE.

What are a few of your favorite books?

"THE BOOK OF LIES" (CROWLEY), "ALSO SPRACH ZARATHUSTRA" (NIETZSCHE), "PSYCHOLOGIE DER MASSEN" (LE BON), "TOTAL RESISTANCE" (VON DACH), "THE ART OF FARTING" (GAINSBOURG), "THE EYE" ... TOO MANY TO LIST.

What do you feel is your greatest accomplishment?

EVOLUTION. I DIE AND I WANT THE NEXT COME ALONG MY PATH AND STEP OVER ME.

TAKING MY INPUT WITHIN.

Is there a time period in history which you would rather live other than the present?

NO. I AM NOWHERE.

What is the most inaccurate rumour that you have heard about yourself?

I KILLED SOMEONE IN CHINA, WENT TO JAIL, BROKE OUT AND FLED TO JAPAN.

THERE I JUMPED ON TOKYOS SUBWAY RAILS AND STOPPED A TRAIN BY PURE HAND.

IN MATTER OF FACT I LOST FRIENDS BELIEVING IN ALL THAT! AS LOGICAL AS IT IS: I WOULD BE DEAD. OR SUPERMAN. I'M NOT DEAD, SO WHO MUST I BE THEN?

ANOTHER COMPLETE INACCURATE COMMENT, COMMING UP AGAIN AND AGAIN IS ME BEING A SEXIST. ESPECIALLY SINCE MY "VOMITCHORUS FOR THREE GIRLS". THOSE GIRLS WAS NOT PAYED FOR - THEY DID IT FOR THEIR OWN EXCITEMENT. THEY EVEN SEW THEIR DRESSES FOR THIS PARTICULAR AKTION THEMSELFES. FEMINISTS ATTACKED MY STAGE ON THE AKTION FOR A JODELLING WOMAN IN DIRNDL, GETTING A LARGE NUMBER OF BUCKETS FILLED WITH ROTTEN MILK EMPTYIED OVER HER HEAD.

SHE DID THAT FOR HER EXPERIANCE - AND LOVED IT. SHE WAS NOT AWARE THE ATTACK, AS SHE HAD HER EYES CLOSED. AND SHE WAS GREATLY PISSED OFF WHEN HEAR ABOUT HER IDIOTIC "GENDER COMPANIONS". BESIDES, ALL ENTRANCE FEE WAS TAKEN TO CLEAN HER DIRNDL AFTERWARDS.

IT'S ALL ABOUT A NEW LIVE-EXPERIANCE. THOSE WHO DON'T WANT THAT CAN JUST LEAVE.

Have you ever read Gildenstern & Rosencrantz... in its entirety?

WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THAT.

"RUNZELSTIRN & GURGELSTOCK" IS A NAME WITHOUT ANY OTHER BACKGROUND THEN MYSELF. IT DOES NOT REFERE TO ANYTHING.

What are some of the most successful techniques to opening up people's senses?

PUTTING 'EM INTO AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION. NOISE ALONE CAN BE CONSUMED JUST AS POP. DISTURBING BEHAVIOUR - YOU MENTIONED - CAN BE CONSUMED AS A CIRCUS-NUMBER. YOU'VE TO BREAK ANOTHER BORDER. SEARCH AND DESTROY THAT BORDER. SEARCH BECAUSE THAT BORDERS ARE ALWAYS HIDDEN. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST TOO SIMPLE!

IF NOTHING WORKS, TAKE A SLEDGE.

What type of people buy your paintings? Have you had to meet any of them?

THESE PEOPLE WANT KEEP ANONYMOUS. ONCE I MET AN OLD JAPANESE PROFESSOR, WHO MAY HAS THE BIGGEST COLLECTION OF MY WORKS. SOMETIMES ARTIST BUY MY ART, SUCH AS BUTOH-GROUPS WITH SOME FINANCIAL BACKGROUND.

WEIRDOS MOSTLY.

I know that you have used your pets for creative purposes like recording. Have you ever used your pets for food and eaten them?

I DON'T LIKE THE TERM "USED". NOR "PETS". I'M JUST IN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH ANIMALS, THATS ALL. FOR AN "ARCHITECTS-FORUM" IN TAIPEI I ONCE WAS HIRED, THAT WAS WHILE I WAS GOAT-SHEPERD IN THE MOUNTAINS, I TOOK THREE OF MY GOATS DOWN TO THE BOURGEOIS OPENING-PARTY. THE GOATS HAD SUCH A FUN RAMMING HORNS INTO ASSES OF CHAMPAING SUCKING BITCHES, LETTING GO NEXT THEIR EXPENSIVE HIGHHEELS. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS LAUGHING HARDER; ME, THE GOATS, OR MY FRIENDS IN THE AUDIANCE. PERFECT PANIC.

MY ROOSTER DID SUCH A WELL AKTION TOO. SO PROUD TO BE ON STAGE. HE KNEW HE IS THE MASTER OF THE CEREMONY, WITH PICK-UPS ON HIS NECK.

THESE ANIMALS ARE NOT FOOD. THEY'RE BONES AND MUSCLES. JUST AS ME. SURE NOT TASTY.

When did you first realize that you had good communication with animals?

SINCE AN ANACONDA MOVED UPWARDS TO LOOK STRAIGHT INTO LITTLE RUDOLFS EYES - AND ANOTHER ANACONDA AT ANOTHER PLACE DID JUST SAME THE WEEK AFTER. EVEN SEVERAL DOZEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE AROUND, THEY DON'T CARE BUT SIMPLY COME TO ME. CAN'T TELL WHY. SINCE, I "COMMUNICATE" WITH SNAKES. STILL NOW. THE LATEST WAS A BLACK MAMBA. I SORT OF UNDERSTAND 'EM AND THEY ME. WOLVES GREET ME, SO DO CROWS. SHEEPS RATHER ARGUE, THEY ALWAYS SEND THEIR LEADER TOWARDS ME. I'M MOST AFRAID OF HORSES - THEY REFUSE TALKING WITH ME. SCARRY GUYS.

Is this telepathic communications?

I WONT CALL THAT TELEPATHY, BUT SYNCHRONIZATION.

TELEPATHY WITH ANIMALS MAY OCCURE IN EXTREME SITUATIONS: WHEN MY RAT DIED, I KNEW IT ON THE SECOND - EVEN BEING AT ANOTHER PLACE, I RECEIFED A FINAL SIGNAL LIKE A STING, AND I KNEW INSTANTLY IT WAS HER "BYE" TO ME, PROOFING IT RIGHT AFTER RUSHING UP TO SEE HER.

TELEPATHY IS MORE LIKELY BETWEEN HUMANS. EVEN UNKNOWN ONES. EVEN DEAD ONES. FEELS LIKE A RADIO-RECEIFER REALLY. IT'S HARD TO GET A SINGLE SIGNAL SORTED OUT. SOMETIMES IT COMES INN TOO CLEAR.
THAT'S ANOTHER THEME THEN COMMUNICATION WITH ANIMALS.

WITH ANIMALS IT'S UPON INSTINCT, BEHAVIOUR AND SHARING FREQUENCIES.

LOOK FROM THE OTHER SIDE: MY HUNTING DOGS NEVER DID BARK AT SOMEONE WITH ONLY ONE EXCEPTION. THEY GOT MAD OVER THAT GUY. LATER I WAS TOLD HE IS SEARCHED FOR ORGANIZED CRIME AND MURDER. I COULD TELL, I JUST WASN'T BARKING.

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"WELL, SHE OPENS HER CUNT AND THOUSANDS OF ANTS CRAWL OUT. THAT PART IS WRITTEN FOR ANGELINA JOLIE, SHE NOT SIGNED YET."
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Do the animals also enjoy psycho-physical training sessions?

THEY DON'T NEED THAT.

EVEN WOLVES ARE MORE CLEVER THEN US: WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE THEN SEVEN SHEEPS IN A HORDE, THEY WONT KILL ONE, NOT UNTIL NEXT SEASON.

HUMANS DON'T CAN COUNT TO SEVEN IT SEEMS. WE ARE SUICIDAL. AND STUPID.

Where do you receive the most respect for your art?

CENSORS MAYBE?: ONE WHO COULD NOT BRING ME OVER COURT DID SIMPLY BUY ALL ART OF MINE HE DIDN'T WANTED SEE IN PUBLIC. GOOD BUSINESS.

RESPECT I DO RECEIFE - THATS BETTER THEN ANY BUSINESS. FROM WHERE I CAN'T TELL... THERES NOTHING SPECIFIC.

Do you have any regrets for something in your life or from a creative attempt?

NO. AFTERWARDS YOU KNOW BETTER. THATS LIFE. THATS LEARNING. IN MATTER OF FACT THAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE.

Do you and Dave ever argue about morality or diets?

OVER AND OVER.

IN GOOD MEANS.

I understand you did an entire tour with the same fish in your suitcase. If this is true, was it simply cheaper to not buy new fish? Or do used fish sound better?

CRAP. I NEVER HAD FISH IN ANY SUITCASE. PISSED OFF FROM TECHNICALS I JUST DID BRING ALL MY BROKEN CABELS ON TOUR. PLUGGING INN THE FISHES I FOUND IN TOWN. FRESH AND DEAD. AND THERE WAS NO SOUND COMMING OUT OF DEAD FISH ANYWAY.

NOWADAYS IT MAY BE ABSURD, BUT THATS TIME IT MADE THE ONE BIG ANTI-STATEMENT TO BORING SNOBBISH NOISICIANS-ELECTRONICS. AND THEY LOVED IT. SURE WITH EXCEPTIONS.

What are some of the more fun things to do in Japan?

I DON'T WANT BECOME TOO EXPLICIED HERE. WATCHING THE CHERRI-BLOSSOMS FALLING SHOULD EXPLAIN IT ALL.

What are the names of your dogs?

THREE ROTTWEILERS KEEPING MY GOATS BUSY WHILE I GO OUT WITH TWO HUNTING DOGS. THATS IN QUAI-SHAN. I WON'T THINK NAMES.

HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW SITS MY SHEPERD NEXT TO ME. THATS "CHI-CHAN", OBSERVED BY "ROSEMARY" AND "JASMIN", THE TWO RATS JUST OVER THERE HIDING.

MY FAMOUS FIGHTING-ROOSTER IS "MU-CHAK". DON'T FUCK WITH HIM!

Have you yet eaten a dog? If yes, what kind of dog was it?

HOT-DOG.

EUROPEANS WONT EAT DOG, CHINESE WONT EAT HORSE. MUSLIM WONT EAT PIG AND HINDU CAN'T EAT COW. I'M VOODOO. I CAN'T EAT KOSHER, BUT ALSO NO FROG, NO TURTLE, NO WAL AND I DON'T NEED TIGER-PENIS EITHER. MINE IS GOOD ENOGH.

TRIBES IN AFRICA EAT COCKROACH. I WOULD TRY... ALSO A DOG-STEAK IN CHINA. IT JUST HAS TO MAKE SENSE..!

THE BITCH IN MINK-COAT, WITH CROCODILE BAG, CHEWING ON FROG-LEGS, IS DEAD WHEN CROSSING MY PATH! BOOM CHACK AND BYE. DAMN NONSENSE... THIS BITCH.

AND YES, BY THE WAY: JAPAN PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTED BY WHALE MEAT TOO. IT'S THE GOUVERNMENT FORCING THEM; BY GIVING WHALE TO KINDERGARTENS, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND ELDERLY PEOPLES EXILES - JUST TO SAFE MONEY. YOU WON'T SEE WHALE MEAT ON MARKETS AT ALL. BUT AREN'T YOU GUYS OVERTHERE NOT EATING PIGEYE WITH COWNOSE SANDWITCHED IN FOLDED PAPERMASH?

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"FORGET BEHAVIOUR ONLY WHEN YOU ACCIDENTALLY STEP IN A CIRCLE OF IDIOTS."
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I had pet turtles and won't eat turtle even though a guy wanted to make turtle soup. What are your reasons for not eating turtles or frogs? I can get brain and eyeball tacos here in Chicago.

FROGS GET CUT IN HALF. THE LOWER PART GOES TO PARIS, THE UPPER PART TO THE TRASH. IT'S THE UPPER PART THAT STILL LIVES, LOOSING GUTS AND TRIES TO JUMP AWAY. IT'S SAME TO THE TIGERPENIS, GORILLAHANDS, CROCODILESKIN, IVORY ETC. ETC. NONSENSE.

WHEN YOU GET PIGEYEBALL AND COWBRAIN TACOS IN CHICAGO, THEN AT LEAST YOU FINISH IT UP. MAKES SENSE. WASTE IS STUPID, HUNTING ENDANGERED SPECIES IS STUPID AND WALKING IN A MINK COAT IS ULTRA-STUPID.

What are your favorite films?

JODOROWSKYS. NO QUESTION.

CHECK OUT "DAS GESPENST" FROM ACHTERNBUSCH: A NUN DOES HER ONANIE IN FRONT THE CROSS, HER MOARNS WAKE UP JESUS. SO HE COMES DOWN THE CROSS AND TAKES A JOB AS BARTENDER. TWO COPS COME INTO HIS BAR SAYING: "GIVE ME THAT SHIT". AS HE CANNOT FIND BOTTLED SHIT, HE TAKES TWO GLASSES OUT THE BAR, WALKS WITH STILL OUTSTRECHED ARMS - YOU SEE, HIS MUSCELS ARE SURE BIT STIFF AFTER SO MANY YEARS ON THE CROSS - HE WALKS THRU THE VILLAGE CALLING AND ASKING: "GIVE ME SHIT! SHIT FOR THE POLICE! SHIT! SHIT FOR THE POLICE!" THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING.

I REMEMBER CHRISTIANS TRYING BLOCK THE CINEMAS DOORS. GOT A PAMPHLED TELLING: ALL ONLOOKERS WILL GO TO HELL. WELL.

BUNUEL. HIS SON TOO. JAPANESE DO GREAT MOVIES THESE DAYS - ABSURD HORROR. THE FIRST GIRL IS CRUSHED BEFORE YOU EVEN CAN SIT DOWN TO WATCH.

Do you think farting or vomiting yields better artistic results?

FOR SURE. BOTH MEANS TO LET OUT SOMETHING. AND THATS ALL WHATS ART ABOUT.

NO - TO BE SERIOUS - AS ARTIST YOU CAN'T FEEL ANNOYED OR DISGUST ABOUT THAT NATURAL PROCESS? CAN YOU?

POMPEII, YEAR 70AD, SOMEONE PAINT ROTTEN MEAT ONTO THE WALL - AND STILL NOW THIS IS A PROBLEM? 17TH CENTURY NATURE MORTE PAINTINGS - AND STILL A PROBLEM NOW?
FUCK ANDY WARHOLE, FUCK POP-ART, STICK YOUR NECKTIE UP YOUR ASS AND DON'T FORGET TO BLEACH YOUR HAIR... BURB.

ART IS FOR OPEN-UP SENSES, NOT FOR IT'S STERILIZATION.

Have you ever orchestrated a fart orchestra?

CARNIVOURS DON'T FART THAT MUCH AND PRECISE AS THE VEGANS. MY VOMIT-ORCHESTRAS ARE DOING BETTER.

Did Tochnit Aleph ever release a DVD of R&G performances?

NOT YET. I LOOK FORWARD A DVD RELEASE.

CORRECTION: DVDS EXISTS, BUT NON OF IT IS A PUBLIC RELEASE YET.

Are there any current/new projects or recordings that you think need to be mentioned here for people to know about?

JUST NOW CAME TWO NEW LPS OUT: "AKUSTISCHE AKTION" BY LANZ/EB.ER AND "PARIS AKTIONEN" BY SCHIMPFLUCH-GRUPPE; THATS TIME PHILLIPS/EB.ER WITH COMPANIONS. IT'S A COINCIDENCE, BOTH LPS ARE LIVE AND FROM EARLY AKTIONS. LANZ/EB.ER WAS RECORDED 1991. A REALLY SPECIAL RELEASE TO ME. THE OTHER WAS RECORDED 1996/1997 AND IS VERY "AKTIONISTIC".

THERE ARE RUNZELSTIRN & GURGELSTOCK ALBUMS IN WORK - INCLUDING LATEST "SHAMAN RITES" AND "ANTI KONZERTS", BUT RIGHT NOW I WORK ON "ALLES TOT", AN LP BY LANZ/EB.ER AGAIN. TO US, PART OF A TRIPTICHON WITH OUR EARLIER LPS "MAMA (DAS FEST)" AND "LIEDERLICHES UND NICHTIGES VON JOKE LANZ UND RUDOLF EB.ER". A LABEL IS NOT DISCLOSED YET.

MORE WILL FOLLOW ON MY SIDELABEL "HATE OPERATION".

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